[mrtg] SNMP monitoring of Windows CPU/Memory/Disk

[Bill Matthews]

Hi There,

I use MRTG for watching my routers (of course) and also use it to
monitor CPU/Memory/Disk on my Unix/Linux servers.

My question is, does Windows 2000 or Windows 2003 come with an SNMP
agent? If not, could I install net-snmp? Anyone have the MIBs?

Thanks
BM

[PAUL WILLIAMSON]

Post by Bill Matthews
Hi There,
I use MRTG for watching my routers (of course) and also use it
to monitor CPU/Memory/Disk on my Unix/Linux servers.
My question is, does Windows 2000 or Windows 2003 come with an
SNMP agent? If not, could I install net-snmp? Anyone have the
MIBs?
Thanks
BM

Use SNMP Informant...much better.

Yeah, you could use net-snmp too, but not as good IMHO!
At least for the Windows boxes. It's great for the unix
boxen.

Microsoft's SNMP is as broken as they come. Not worth even
considering.

Paul

[Shane Presley]

Post by PAUL WILLIAMSON
Use SNMP Informant...much better.
Yeah, you could use net-snmp too, but not as good IMHO!
At least for the Windows boxes. It's great for the unix
boxen.
Microsoft's SNMP is as broken as they come. Not worth even
considering.

I'm having the same problem. I've got MS SNMP up, but trying to get
SNMP Informant up. The documentation seems lacking..or at least I
don't understand it. Is there an "install" guide?

Also tried Net-SNMP, it works, but I can't find the CPU/Memory MIBs.

Shane

[Laurence Sanford]

Post by Shane Presley
I'm having the same problem. I've got MS SNMP up, but trying to get
SNMP Informant up. The documentation seems lacking..or at least I
don't understand it. Is there an "install" guide?
Also tried Net-SNMP, it works, but I can't find the CPU/Memory MIBs.
Shane

Again, see my previous post in this thread, and try using snmpbulkwalk to
find the mibs. It's really not that hard. I'll take a look at some of the
output files I've got from snmpbulkwalk and clean some of them up, and
post the mibs somewhere if I can find the time.

[Garth Williams]

OK, So I guess I should step in.

There is a fairly good readme with Informant, but no install manual. You
simply run the install program, and that's it. Then, like any other SNMP
service, you need to load the MIBs (also called compile in other terms), and
browse the WTCS MIBS. In some cases, it has been seen that the SNMP service
needs to be restarted, but it is not SUPPOSED to be a requirement, although
because SNMP Informant is an MS EXTENSTION agent, this may be the case from
time to time. We can't control that, so to be sure, restart the SNMP
service.

The free Standard version comes with SNMPv1 and SNMPv2 MIBS, so get the ones
you need (based on your MIB browser/compiler from either the c:\program
files\snmp informant\standard\mibs\SMIv1 or SMIV2 directory, and away you
go. If you have problems, you can post your issues on the SNMP Informant
support forums accessible from the Support page on snmp-informant.com.

I have been refraining from using this list group if the question is not
specifically MRTG related. SNMP Informant STD supports Logical Disk, Network
Interface, Processor, Memory and Objects, so should provide the information
you seek. MANY people use it. I will help you wherever possible.

Thank you very much!

Garth K. Williams - Product Manager
Williams Technology Consulting Services (http://www.wtcs.org)
- SNMP Informant (http://www.snmp-informant.com)
- SNMP for the Public Community (http://www.snmp4tpc.com)


-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Presley <***@gmail.com>
To: PAUL WILLIAMSON <***@mandtbank.com>, ***@list.ee.ethz.ch
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:01:45 -0400
Subject: [mrtg] Re: SNMP monitoring of Windows CPU/Memory/Disk

Post by Shane Presley

Post by PAUL WILLIAMSON
Use SNMP Informant...much better.
Yeah, you could use net-snmp too, but not as good IMHO!
At least for the Windows boxes. It's great for the unix
boxen.
Microsoft's SNMP is as broken as they come. Not worth even
considering.

I'm having the same problem. I've got MS SNMP up, but trying to get
SNMP Informant up. The documentation seems lacking..or at least I
don't understand it. Is there an "install" guide?
Also tried Net-SNMP, it works, but I can't find the CPU/Memory MIBs.
Shane
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[Daniel maher]

There is a guy on this list who will tell you just to use SNMP
Informant. I think he's the owner or something, because it's actually
the only thing I've ever seen him talk about. I've used it, and it's
actually a pretty decent tool, so at least he's not lying. ;)

That said, both Windows 2000 (Server) and 2003 come with an SNMP service
that can be quickly and easily enabled (for free). Just go to your
Services Viewer, and look for the item labelled SNMP. It can be
controlled just like any other Windows service.

Oh, and good luck trying to get useful memory stats out of a 2000 box.
The stats that 2003 spits out are good, though.


Daniel Maher
System Engineer
ACE TECHNOLOGY INC.


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Sent: June 9, 2005 1:58 PM
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Subject: [mrtg] SNMP monitoring of Windows CPU/Memory/Disk

Hi There,

I use MRTG for watching my routers (of course) and also use it to
monitor CPU/Memory/Disk on my Unix/Linux servers.

My question is, does Windows 2000 or Windows 2003 come with an SNMP
agent? If not, could I install net-snmp? Anyone have the MIBs?

Thanks
BM

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[PAUL WILLIAMSON]

That might be me, it might not. I'm neither the owner, nor
the developer. Just a happy user.

Having said that, one problem I have is that the broken SNMP
that comes with MS servers has some serious drawbacks.
Interface indicies change randomly. The reported free disk
space is based on what the drive %full is at on boot, so if you
use up space while it's on (duh!, of course you will), it will
not catch the changes. There is no way to do 64 bit
counters on gig interfaces. Memory and process information
is spotty at best. Although some of this has gotten
better with 2003, there are few people out there that
have jumped to it.

SNMP Informant is free too. You just have to do a tad
bit more work to enable it vs. the stock MS one.

Paul
There is a guy on this list who will tell you just to use SNMP
Informant. I think he's the owner or something, because it's actually
the only thing I've ever seen him talk about. I've used it, and it's
actually a pretty decent tool, so at least he's not lying. ;)

That said, both Windows 2000 (Server) and 2003 come with an SNMP
service
that can be quickly and easily enabled (for free). Just go to your
Services Viewer, and look for the item labelled SNMP. It can be
controlled just like any other Windows service.

Oh, and good luck trying to get useful memory stats out of a 2000 box.
The stats that 2003 spits out are good, though.


Daniel Maher
System Engineer
ACE TECHNOLOGY INC.


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Sent: June 9, 2005 1:58 PM
To: ***@list.ee.ethz.ch
Subject: [mrtg] SNMP monitoring of Windows CPU/Memory/Disk

Hi There,

I use MRTG for watching my routers (of course) and also use it to
monitor CPU/Memory/Disk on my Unix/Linux servers.

My question is, does Windows 2000 or Windows 2003 come with an SNMP
agent? If not, could I install net-snmp? Anyone have the MIBs?

Thanks
BM

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[Bill Matthews]

Thanks all. I'm still having some problems, both with the stock MS
service, and SNMP Informant.

Maybe my problem is I don't know which MIBs to watch?

In Linux/Unix I would watch:

ssCpuRawUser.0 & ssCpuRawSystem.0 to get CPU utlization
memTotalReal.0 & memAvailReal.0 to get memory
memTotalSwap.0 & memAvailSwap.0 to get SWAP
hrSystemProcesses.0 to get # of processes
hrStorageSize.whatever & hrStorageUsed.whatever to watch a disk

The only ones that work in W2K/W2K3 are hrSystemProcesses and
hrStorageSize. I can't seem to find any CPU, Mem, or Swap MIBs?

Thanks
BM

Post by PAUL WILLIAMSON
That might be me, it might not. I'm neither the owner, nor
the developer. Just a happy user.
Having said that, one problem I have is that the broken SNMP
that comes with MS servers has some serious drawbacks.
Interface indicies change randomly. The reported free disk
space is based on what the drive %full is at on boot, so if you
use up space while it's on (duh!, of course you will), it will
not catch the changes. There is no way to do 64 bit
counters on gig interfaces. Memory and process information
is spotty at best. Although some of this has gotten
better with 2003, there are few people out there that
have jumped to it.
SNMP Informant is free too. You just have to do a tad
bit more work to enable it vs. the stock MS one.
Paul

[Laurence Sanford]

Try this, watch for wrap, change to match your network numbers, etc. You
can also find mibs very close to these for drive usage, etc. It took me
several hours to track down all the win2k mibs I use using snmpbulkwalk
from my BSD box.

Target[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]:
1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.1.48&1.3.6.1.4
.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.1.48:***@192.168.1.3:::::2
MaxBytes[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: 100
Title[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: CPU LOAD
PageTop[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: <H1>Active CPU Load %</H1>
Unscaled[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: ymwd
ShortLegend[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: %
YLegend[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: CPU Utilization
Legend1[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: Active CPU in % (Load)
Legend2[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: Active CPU in % (Load)
Legend3[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]:
Legend4[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]:
LegendI[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: Active
LegendO[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: Active
Options[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: growright,nopercent,gauge
Colours[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]:
RED#FF0000,BLUE#1000ff,RED2#CC0000,VIOLE
T#ff00ff
XSize[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: 600
YSize[192.168.1.3_hrProcessorLoad.1]: 200

Target[192.168.1.3_memory]:
1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.1.0&1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.4.
0:***@192.168.1.3:::::2 / 1024
MaxBytes[192.168.1.3_memory]: 1500000000
Title[192.168.1.3_memory]: Memory usage
PageTop[192.168.1.3_memory]: <H1>Free and Used Memory</H1>
kMG[192.168.1.3_memory]: k,M,G,T,P,X
YLegend[192.168.1.3_memory]: Memory
ShortLegend[192.168.1.3_memory]: bytes
LegendI[192.168.1.3_memory]: Free Memory
LegendO[192.168.1.3_memory]: Commited Memory
Options[192.168.1.3_memory]: growright,nopercent,gauge
Colours[192.168.1.3_memory]:
BLUE#33FFFF,BLUE#1000ff,RED2#CC0000,VIOLET#ff00ff
XSize[192.168.1.3_memory]: 600
YSize[192.168.1.3_memory]: 200

Post by Bill Matthews
Thanks all. I'm still having some problems, both with the stock MS
service, and SNMP Informant.
Maybe my problem is I don't know which MIBs to watch?
ssCpuRawUser.0 & ssCpuRawSystem.0 to get CPU utlization
memTotalReal.0 & memAvailReal.0 to get memory
memTotalSwap.0 & memAvailSwap.0 to get SWAP
hrSystemProcesses.0 to get # of processes
hrStorageSize.whatever & hrStorageUsed.whatever to watch a disk
The only ones that work in W2K/W2K3 are hrSystemProcesses and
hrStorageSize. I can't seem to find any CPU, Mem, or Swap MIBs?
Thanks
BM

Post by PAUL WILLIAMSON
That might be me, it might not. I'm neither the owner, nor
the developer. Just a happy user.
Having said that, one problem I have is that the broken SNMP
that comes with MS servers has some serious drawbacks.
Interface indicies change randomly. The reported free disk
space is based on what the drive %full is at on boot, so if you
use up space while it's on (duh!, of course you will), it will
not catch the changes. There is no way to do 64 bit
counters on gig interfaces. Memory and process information
is spotty at best. Although some of this has gotten
better with 2003, there are few people out there that
have jumped to it.
SNMP Informant is free too. You just have to do a tad
bit more work to enable it vs. the stock MS one.
Paul

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